## The three states of effectiveness

Started by VLS, Dec 30, 2022, 06:00 PM

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#### VLS

This thread is for quotes from Mark/Gizmotron regarding the three states of effectiveness:

Quote from: gizmotron

Seeing patterns or trends is just an excuse to tie an illusion to a bet selection process. In other words I'm using the streak, the structure and form of the streak, a portion of past spins, to tie these forms to wins or losses. I have always suggested that anyone could use any consistent bet selection process to expose the three states of effectiveness. That is the only real currently occurring fact based data gathering construct going on here. You can know if you are in a winning streak and you can actually see it change to one of two primary other types. This is real information and it is not based on a capacity to predict the future. These are phases that occur while you make bet selections for whatever reason you make guesses. I don't play blind rule based progression bet selection methods because they never win in the long run.

I play the effectiveness streaks, when they are clustering in favorable conditions.

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Quote from: gizmotron

Roulette is a game of independent events. In that independence you get win phases and losing phases. The future does not cause these things to happen. They just happen because of coincidence. You don't have to fund the losing phases at the same price as the winning phases. You will still get the expected number of losses that is mathematically likely to occur. You can't get around that. Sometimes you can't see the phases because they are hidden in chaos. But there are definite times when you can observe the losing streak or the winning streak. Am I crazy here? You people can see the win streaks and the losing streaks can't you?

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Quote from: gizmotron

Randomness exists in three states. It works, it doesn't, and it's in between, kind of chaotic. That's the same for systems and methods too. Everything works in one of these three states. Becoming aware of these states takes work. Try anything from anyone. If you can see these three states then you have it.

Quote from: gizmotron

But your bet selection triggers can lead you into changing conditions. You can effect a change by changing yourself. Being stuck with one set of triggers will lead you to all three conditions. That's why you need to know why changes happen. You need at least two set of triggers and one other trigger for when nothing works.

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Quote from: gizmotron

You can have rules. But you had better have rules that take into account the three phases of effectiveness.

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Here is a simple rule that works. A first time loss is an indication that a perfect executing pattern has begun to end. If the pattern is of 85% quality or better then an occasional lost bet is to be expected. If losses only occur as singles then continue until hitting two lost bets in a row. You fit the correct rules to the matching patterns.
Quote from: gizmotron

From line 1 to 26 Black always hits as a single. This is a common enough formation. If it holds up for a while, and it really does, you can strike a winning blow on Red right after each Black single. This holds up long enough to win 3 net big win bets. You play it until it no longer holds up. There are variations of smaller bets to bet more on the Red domination too. But the single Black streak is a monster winner.

Now look at Black dominate from lines 65 to 87. Black is the monster while Red hits as singles only.

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Well here is the secret. You jump in and if you are in the favorable effectiveness zone then you keep going. If you are in the losing streak zone then you stop making big bets.You win by attrition. In other words you win the session. All you need is a few more wins than losses. How much you need to win is far more important than just blazing away to be the big winner. You must hold on to your money while you wait for these opportunities. No digging deep holes.

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#### Whatswhats

Is there someone that can create an xls of pseudo system?

#### BlueBuzzard

Quote from: Whatswhats on Dec 30, 2022, 06:48 PM

Is there someone that can create an xls of pseudo system?

Maybe, but there are many questions which need to be answered first. I think Gizmo is talking about even chances although I guess the concept can be applied to all locations. But it's pretty vague as it stands and needs to be fleshed out. What are the boundaries between the 3 states? How do you know what state you're currently in? To write a simulation you need numbers and details.

#### Whatswhats

Quote from: BlueBuzzard on Dec 31, 2022, 11:18 AM

Quote from: Whatswhats on Dec 30, 2022, 06:48 PM

Is there someone that can create an xls of pseudo system?

Maybe, but there are many questions which need to be answered first. I think Gizmo is talking about even chances although I guess the concept can be applied to all locations. But it's pretty vague as it stands and needs to be fleshed out. What are the boundaries between the 3 states? How do you know what state you're currently in? To write a simulation you need numbers and details.
Can u make the excel of the system? Without progression just where to bet?

#### gizmotron

Interesting. Victor ( VLS ) just made me aware that this discussion was occurring. I'll spend some time on this as I have published the concepts and backup software at a wild west unmoderated forum almost 4 years ago. That forum has almost no rules with regards to forum decorum, like this forum does. So I go to war against the so called "mathBoyz" of old. Be forewarned that that thread over there is a free for all fight. You will not be safe if you post over there. You will not be protected from being offended.

I published it there because I knew I wanted one place to write the thread. So I support that thread in one place. But, I have supported that thread in other forums like this one where ideas have been discussed.

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#### gizmotron

Far out Dude! VLS posted the origin, (source) for my work on Reading Randomness. As you now know I just have written this once. There is no point in writing it all over again. But there is a good idea that discussing it in a safe place is very nice, nice indeed.

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#### gizmotron

Quote from: Whatswhats on Dec 30, 2022, 06:48 PM

Is there someone that can create an xls of pseudo system?

I have supporting software, free to download and run, including access code "007 software?" without the quotes, that is for the purpose of practicing. It includes instruction discussions and videos on YouTube to also support it.

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#### gizmotron

Quote from: Whatswhats on Jan 01, 2023, 03:38 PM

Maybe, but there are many questions which need to be answered first. I think Gizmo is talking about even chances although I guess the concept can be applied to all locations. But it's pretty vague as it stands and needs to be fleshed out. What are the boundaries between the 3 states? How do you know what state you're currently in? To write a simulation you need numbers and details.

Reading Randomness is a skill. It applies to everything that you can imagine in the forms of groupings, like even chance, double dozens, single dozens, positive "up & pull" progressions, the likes of John Patrick etc... It's a skill to find the hot streaks and cold runs.

I use 6 groupings for even chance in order to validate the concepts that are labeled as to find a form of coincidence. I call this "coincidental change." You use the same strategy for variable change found in card counting and Blackjack. You bet big when you are in the advantage condition for AP play in 21. You bet big when in the advantage state for this. You bet the minimum for any other condition or state.

So coincidental change equates to an AP. It just has not been proven or validated by peer review yet. I have set out to do this before the math for it exists. It's backwards. But it is in fact a viable kind of peer reviewed authentic experiment. I'm just using gambling experts to do the peer reviewed validation. Their work and results tend to undermine all known results expected from beliefs held as normal results expected. It changes everything. So I'm taking the slow road and using it at the same time.

So it is discussed here.

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#### gizmotron

Why are mathematics, statistics, and binomial distribution not considered?

It's very simple. Math will never tell you when a win streak will start or when it will end. It won't tell you how long it will last. The same goes for a losing streak. So math is useless for this method. Using trends for an advantage has nothing to do with prediction. For some reason the mathBoyz insist that this is exactly what is being claimed by the trend and pattern users. So they start out with an assumption that is never made. It's pointless to argue over something that is never claimed. I fail every time to get them to listen to this point. Please listen. It has nothing to do with prediction. The claim is never being made.

Thank you,

Mark