Cycle-based play is relaxing

[VLS]

When you shift your mentality into internalizing cycle-based play, you bet in a calm way spin after spin.

Knowing the "cycle win event" is "any hit within a full cycle" relaxes your stay in the game.

You internalize this in your thinking:

- When I'm betting 2 numbers, I have 18 spins to hit.
- When I'm betting 3 numbers, I have 12 spins to hit.
- When I'm betting 4 numbers, I have 9 spins to hit.
- When I'm betting 5 numbers, I have 7 spins to hit.
- When I'm betting 6 numbers, I have 6 spins to hit...

Roulette then becomes a relaxing experience, a game where you transcend impatience and learn professionalism.

Even if you miss a cycle, you know it is just a bump in the road: your overall betting strategy accounts for such event.

After all, winning is hitting within your bankroll means (and you always bet with a proper bankroll that covers you across sessions, so it's time to have a good time and RELAX).

[ag144]

Do you have any examples of the above with numbers?

I have just joined the forum and bought the RBT earlier on today. My hit rate was around 1 in 17/18 and I want to get better at identifying the trends and knowing when to bet.

[aris]

One hit in every 17/18 is exceptional; if that's indeed true you don't have to get better anymore. Usually top most hit numbers come once in 25 spins on an average over 500 spins.
Or do I understand you right?

[winkel]

it is simply pure math:

If you bet 1 number you should have 1 hit in 37 spins.
If you bet 2 numbers you should have either 2 hits in 37 spins or 1 hit in 18 spins
If you bet 3 numbers you should have either 3 hits in 37 spins or 1 hit in 12 spins
If you bet 4 numbers you should have either 4 hits in 37 spins or 1 hit in 9 spins
and so on.....
If you bet 12 numbers you should have either 12 hits in 37 spins or 1hit in 3 spins

my "stretched Fibonacci-Progession" is based on this:

because you have to pick at least 1 number that hits in 37 spins

e.g.:
if you bet 12 numbers or 1 doz you can expect 1 hit in 3 spins.
but more often than you´ll expect you won´t have a hit.
so bet 3 times 1 unit if all3 bets miss give the probability the chance to correct its mistake and bet again 3 times 1 unit.
in the 3rd attempt there "should" then be 3 hits (1 for every group of 3 bets)
bet 2 units 3 times
bet 3 units 3 times
and so on

[VLS]

My hit rate was around 1 in 17/18 and I want to get better at identifying the trends and knowing when to bet.

Thank you for your support. The RBT already identifies the trends and reduces it all to a game of cycle hit vs miss, which means any hit within the cycle is a win. This simplicity is what makes it relaxing.

The ideal scenario is to win the most when consecutive winning cycles happen, at a rate that surpasses the negative tram.

Some people prefer to recover it all with 1 hit only, yet there are multiple ways:

Recover all with 1 hit (traditional progression) within boundaries.

Raise +1 on base unit after a miss (stepped progression).

Furthermore, what I call "Backed compounding", which means compounding the initial part of a larger bank, then using a regular progression on a miss.

(When hits concentrate you get the most, then when a miss happens you are "backed" by the progressive part)


I'm doing the charting code for easy comparison right now.

The current version of the RBT client calls the numbers only; they can certainly be progressed using several Money Management schemes, according to player preferences (people is different, hence the different money management ways reflect this fact).

e.g. 100-unit banks aiming at growing them individually (self-growing) vs a full 1000-unit bank "all in".


The new web client with bet amount calculation is coming this weekend for users to compare and choose their personal style, actual chart in sight.

There's likely an usable way for both sides of the conservative vs "all-in" player spectrum alike.


P.S: your subscription has been extended for another week to let you enjoy the RBT client transition. We're going to use the new RBT client charting to make an impeccable public testing on future spins only (!).

This is a different Roulette tool hence we aim at making the number testing with no possible accusations of cherry-picking past numbers (by means of forum members calling out a future date from a publishing casino and then having other fellow trusted users posting their actual testing results on that date).

That's as clean as can be for public number testing.

[Ribert]

Hi all,

The hit rate is extremely good, but be careful when playing traditional progression.
It looked like I had a good online session playing at Playtech Live Casino, but unfortunately not. I was unlucky and witness 2 cycles back to back without a hit. This hit my bankroll badlly as I was playing agresiv progression...

Anyway, thank you Victor for giving us access to such a good tool, it's something I've never seen before. I hope more experienced players will advise what money management is the best.

[ag144]

Thank you for your support. The RBT already identifies the trends and reduces it all to a game of cycle hit vs miss, which means any hit within the cycle is a win. This simplicity is what makes it relaxing.


P.S: your subscription has been extended for another week to let you enjoy the RBT client transition.

Appreciate the response and the extension of the RBT. I look forward to the new features you mentioned you are in the process of adding.

I am experimenting with different money management styles. For now, as a relatively inexperienced player, I have just been getting a feel for the game and stopping my sessions with 20-30% profit. Going forwards, I am going to be looking into money management and staking plans to see if I capitalise on cycles where a 'hit' is approaching.

Any recommendations on what betting bank is best to start with and how much to bet on each time is says 'spin'on the RBT. For reference, the first time I used the tool, I had a bank of £10 and was placing £0.10 bets on each recommendation from the tool. Is that an appropriate amount to put on?

Overall, I am seeing good progress with the tool and look forward to the improvements you will be implementing. All the best!

[ag144]

One hit in every 17/18 is exceptional; if that's indeed true you don't have to get better anymore. Usually top most hit numbers come once in 25 spins on an average over 500 spins.
Or do I understand you right?

Oh I see. I don't know how often they usually happen for everyone else but for me it has been alright.

[VLS]

@Ribert

Thanks for your support & interactions.

Your subscription has been extended as well for you to check the new RBT client with bankroll charts & suggested progressions.

For instance, you got 28 wins to 3 losses, which shows room to have some form of compounding. You can try checking some possible options in virtual betting / studying the charts in the hope you can start with a plan compounding very minimal units if/when you resume.

@ag144

Please keep your bankroll PROPORTIONALITY in check! €10 / 0.10 = 100 units only.

At this level it is better to play RNG where you have 0.01 chip for = 1000 units. I.e. Build the bankroll, and then move back to the live wheels in due time with a better reserve.

It's all about being proportional. You should always consider keeping enough units as lifetime bank, split in separate "attacks" / sessions.

Please consider something like this:



(Extracted from the 75% Money Management thread)

Thank you for supporting us.

[ag144]

Please keep your bankroll PROPORTIONALITY in check! €10 / 0.10 = 100 units only.

At this level it is better to play RNG where you have 0.01 chip for = 1000 units. I.e. Build the bankroll, and then move back to the live wheels in due time with a better reserve.

It's all about being proportional. You should always consider keeping enough units as lifetime bank, split in separate "attacks" / sessions.

Please consider something like this:



(Extracted from the 75% Money Management thread)

Thank you for supporting us.

Appreciate the insight. I've been using a casino where I've placed some sport bets on before and the minimum they have is 0.1 chips. But I will take the advice on board. Looking forward to using the updated RBT.

Do you have any good RNG casinos or are most of them like that?

Thanks again for the information.