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#32
Money management / 5-unit Mini Parachute
Last post by VLS - Jun 29, 2025, 07:04 PMThis is the standard five-unit Mini Parachute:
Five units equal the payout for the Double Street.
The Mini Parachute is useful for applying the "spiking" principle and unit fragmentation.
If you view it this way, it creates five concurrent "tracks" or "timelines" (one per location), each experiencing its own cycles of concentration and dispersion.
Meanwhile, the overall money management is cooperative.
Using only inside bets, Manrique style!
The goal is to respect proportionality, so that throughout the Mini Parachute cycles of 5 spins each, a strategy of raising and lowering bet units unfolds for a net win.
This thread is published for reference, as this five-unit Mini Parachute is key to multiple betting methods with substance.
A savvy player can certainly utilize the different payouts across the cycles, dynamically targeting the location at hand, while always "observing the bank."
Vic
- Double Street
- Corner/Quad
- Street
- Split
- Straight-Up/Single Number
Five units equal the payout for the Double Street.
The Mini Parachute is useful for applying the "spiking" principle and unit fragmentation.
If you view it this way, it creates five concurrent "tracks" or "timelines" (one per location), each experiencing its own cycles of concentration and dispersion.
Meanwhile, the overall money management is cooperative.
Using only inside bets, Manrique style!
Quote from: Manrique on Mar 21, 2025, 08:28 PM15- He who can do the most can do the least.
The goal is to respect proportionality, so that throughout the Mini Parachute cycles of 5 spins each, a strategy of raising and lowering bet units unfolds for a net win.
- 1 unit for Double Street is 1/5 of the passive.
- On a Quad, it is 1/8 of the passive.
- On a Street, it is 1/11 of the passive.
- On a Split, it is 1/17 of the passive.
- Finally, on the Straight-Up, it is 1/35 of the passive.
This thread is published for reference, as this five-unit Mini Parachute is key to multiple betting methods with substance.
A savvy player can certainly utilize the different payouts across the cycles, dynamically targeting the location at hand, while always "observing the bank."
Vic
#33
Zechnas / About the Zechnas method
Last post by VLS - Jun 27, 2025, 09:51 PMAny halfway decent system has a good chance of starting off with a few winning sessions. We all know that—it's easy to observe.
The real skill lies in studying how the system holds-up under dispersion and not pushing it past its "point of no return."
After extensive testing, if we see that a system typically handles 6 to 8 sessions well, we shouldn't push it beyond half that number plus one. That way, the odds swing exponentially in our favor.
Then it's a matter of switching to another five-star system, and then another—completing a full cycle of the systems we've prepared for the day.
In the next round, we can either play them randomly or, better yet, take advantage of the trends that have started to form in the permanence and squeeze more value out of them.
If the day's been normal, after 4 or 5 cycles we'll have enough profit to stop playing—or, if we've hit a setback, we can use one of the recovery parachutes to try and offset the session that didn't go our way.
That's all there is to the Zechnas Method.
You all know solid systems that can serve this purpose. And if not, I'd venture to say you've been lurking in the forums without diving in—because there are real gems there, born from countless hours of dreaming and dedication...
J.Zechnas/2024
The real skill lies in studying how the system holds-up under dispersion and not pushing it past its "point of no return."
After extensive testing, if we see that a system typically handles 6 to 8 sessions well, we shouldn't push it beyond half that number plus one. That way, the odds swing exponentially in our favor.
Then it's a matter of switching to another five-star system, and then another—completing a full cycle of the systems we've prepared for the day.
In the next round, we can either play them randomly or, better yet, take advantage of the trends that have started to form in the permanence and squeeze more value out of them.
If the day's been normal, after 4 or 5 cycles we'll have enough profit to stop playing—or, if we've hit a setback, we can use one of the recovery parachutes to try and offset the session that didn't go our way.
That's all there is to the Zechnas Method.
You all know solid systems that can serve this purpose. And if not, I'd venture to say you've been lurking in the forums without diving in—because there are real gems there, born from countless hours of dreaming and dedication...
J.Zechnas/2024
#34
TwoUp / Re: Optimal stopping for posit...
Last post by VLS - Jun 26, 2025, 04:23 AMQuote from: TwoUp on Sep 17, 2024, 03:25 PMor 79.2953% which is pretty spectacular for a 50/50 outcomeIndeed—a remarkable edge for an even-chance scenario!
Quote from: TwoUp on Sep 17, 2024, 03:25 PMa 12 unit win is still a win so stopping is a prudent option
The very definition of a "Holy Grail": securing +1 unit relative to your bankroll—regardless of its size—in a repeatable way.
#35
Manrique / [Manrique] ARCANUM IX
Last post by VLS - Jun 25, 2025, 07:16 PMEvery rope has two ends; you must hold it by both.
Lose less when you lose, win more when you win.
A professional player is someone who, when a losing streak hits, is no longer playing.
It's better to play small, but with large chips.
Playing small means aiming for a modest percentage gain, relative to the total bankroll.
Playing big means trying to win a large percentage of the total bankroll.
A professional plays with big chips—but playing with big chips doesn't make you a professional.
―Manrique
Lose less when you lose, win more when you win.
A professional player is someone who, when a losing streak hits, is no longer playing.
It's better to play small, but with large chips.
Playing small means aiming for a modest percentage gain, relative to the total bankroll.
Playing big means trying to win a large percentage of the total bankroll.
A professional plays with big chips—but playing with big chips doesn't make you a professional.
―Manrique
#36
Zechnas / Cat's CLONE P111
Last post by VLS - Jun 17, 2025, 07:50 PMCat's CLONE P111
- 2 spins EVEN CHANCE + 3 spins DOZEN + 6 spins SIX LINE = 111
- 3 spins DOZEN + 6 spins SIX LINE + 9 spins CORNER = 111
- 6 spins SIX LINE + 9 spins CORNER + 12 spins STREET = 111
- 9 spins CORNER + 12 spins STREET + 18 spins SPLIT = 111
- 12 spins STREET + 18 spins SPLIT + 36 spins STRAIGHT UP = 111
Start with one chip and activate the first parachute. Each time that unit hits, you reset the parachute.
When the first parachute fails, the second one kicks in, so you'll now be playing with two simultaneously.
If you haven't reached a positive balance before it falls, you add the third, and so on. Continue this way until you're using all 5 parachutes, resetting as soon as you hit a profit.
Keep track of how many positive outcomes occur before a parachute falls. Find a stop point that's comfortable to manage and not too high—whether winning or losing.
Courtesy of Zechnas / 2022
- 2 spins EVEN CHANCE + 3 spins DOZEN + 6 spins SIX LINE = 111
- 3 spins DOZEN + 6 spins SIX LINE + 9 spins CORNER = 111
- 6 spins SIX LINE + 9 spins CORNER + 12 spins STREET = 111
- 9 spins CORNER + 12 spins STREET + 18 spins SPLIT = 111
- 12 spins STREET + 18 spins SPLIT + 36 spins STRAIGHT UP = 111
- Each clone operates independently in its betting.
- Each clone can (if desired) add more units per negative cycle.
- Each clone is considered as "A PARACHUTE WITHIN A LARGER PARACHUTE."
- Clones can work with progressions for losses (negative), for gains (positive), or simply with risk.
Start with one chip and activate the first parachute. Each time that unit hits, you reset the parachute.
When the first parachute fails, the second one kicks in, so you'll now be playing with two simultaneously.
If you haven't reached a positive balance before it falls, you add the third, and so on. Continue this way until you're using all 5 parachutes, resetting as soon as you hit a profit.
Keep track of how many positive outcomes occur before a parachute falls. Find a stop point that's comfortable to manage and not too high—whether winning or losing.
- A parachute is a method for recovering negative balances against the Roulette wheel. It can also be considered a complete system in its own right.
- Cat is one of the names behind a magnificent roulette player who has captivated several specialized forums with his ingenious systems.
Courtesy of Zechnas / 2022
#37
Roulette Lab / Unit fragmentation
Last post by VLS - Jun 17, 2025, 05:25 PMUnit fragmentation is a little-discussed topic that saves units and allows for stronger/longer progressions (especially when progressing in risk).
We plan to discuss ideas such as:
Focused on a 36-unit fragmentation scheme; this way any hit raises the base unit which is key for adding more steps and earning more on the winning trams.
We plan to discuss ideas such as:
- Fragmented-unit parachute.
- Dynamic spiking.
Focused on a 36-unit fragmentation scheme; this way any hit raises the base unit which is key for adding more steps and earning more on the winning trams.
#38
General discussion / Re: Automated System for Onlin...
Last post by Mrfreez - Jun 11, 2025, 09:02 PMHi, I actually talk about that detail in the post. The reason I developed the hardware for the automatic betting system is because, for the average user, having to manually input each spin can be tiring and tedious. The system needs at least 500 rounds before it can give you a betting signal, and even then, it might not generate one if it doesn't find a suitable opportunity based on its calculations.
It's a very powerful system, but due to the complexity of the calculations it performs, it requires a significant amount of data to provide a highly effective estimate of which two pockets are the most convenient to bet on.
In the coming weeks, I'll be uploading a complementary version of the software. It's essentially the same system, but I've added a new feature that allows you to simulate full sessions by loading a spin history from a text file. This will give you a faster and clearer idea of how profitable the system can be.
It's a very powerful system, but due to the complexity of the calculations it performs, it requires a significant amount of data to provide a highly effective estimate of which two pockets are the most convenient to bet on.
In the coming weeks, I'll be uploading a complementary version of the software. It's essentially the same system, but I've added a new feature that allows you to simulate full sessions by loading a spin history from a text file. This will give you a faster and clearer idea of how profitable the system can be.
#39
Zechnas / ZECHNAS METHOD
Last post by VLS - Jun 10, 2025, 07:30 AMZECHNAS METHOD
(by J.Zechnas)
I follow the Zechnas Method, my personal system for tackling roulette.
My approach involves using multiple systems in different ways. Sometimes, I'll use one system as a "lure" and another as a "recovery" mechanism in case a session turns completely negative —because, let's be honest, that can happen depending on the systems you employ.
With highly reliable systems (the five-star ones, so to speak) or special systems, recovery periods are few and far between. However, if you're using medium-probability systems, you'll find yourself in recovery mode more often.
Another strategy is to combine several high-probability systems. These collectively cover over 85% of outcomes, and I adjust them based on the wheel's developing trends, always aiming for the most favorable setup possible. In the short to medium term, probability can indeed overcome randomness. Here's a crude example: If you cover 34 out of 37 numbers repeatedly, but crucially, using different systems each time, the mathematical probability of those remaining three numbers (which don't have to be the same ones) appearing becomes minimal. This isn't the case if you use the same system, as, theoretically, those 3 out of 37 would appear. So, it's about "playing with randomness" against "randomness" itself.
Entropy is precisely that, and we're now starting to be able to bring order to chaos in many aspects. The only thing standing in our way was our lack of understanding.
Any moderately acceptable system has a good chance of starting strong and winning for a few sessions; we all know this, and we've seen it ourselves.
The real trick lies in studying a system's resilience against dispersions and, crucially, knowing when not to push it past its "point of no return."
After extensive testing, if we find that a particular system comfortably handles, on average, 6 to 8 sessions, we should never push it beyond half plus one of that average. Doing so exponentially increases the probability in our favor.
From there, the strategy is to move on and exploit another one of the five-star (*****) systems in your arsenal, then another, and so on, completing a full cycle of the systems you have in play for that day.
In the next round, you can start playing them randomly, or better yet, capitalize on the trends that are already forming on the roulette table to maximize your returns.
If the day has been typical, after 4 or 5 rounds of play, you'll have accumulated enough profit to either stop playing or, if you've encountered any setbacks, deploy one of your recovery parachutes to salvage the session that wasn't going your way.
There are no more secrets to the Zechnas Method.
You all know good systems that can serve this purpose.
Note: The thread is locked because it is a work in progress / More Zechnas content to come.
(by J.Zechnas)
I follow the Zechnas Method, my personal system for tackling roulette.
My approach involves using multiple systems in different ways. Sometimes, I'll use one system as a "lure" and another as a "recovery" mechanism in case a session turns completely negative —because, let's be honest, that can happen depending on the systems you employ.
With highly reliable systems (the five-star ones, so to speak) or special systems, recovery periods are few and far between. However, if you're using medium-probability systems, you'll find yourself in recovery mode more often.
Another strategy is to combine several high-probability systems. These collectively cover over 85% of outcomes, and I adjust them based on the wheel's developing trends, always aiming for the most favorable setup possible. In the short to medium term, probability can indeed overcome randomness. Here's a crude example: If you cover 34 out of 37 numbers repeatedly, but crucially, using different systems each time, the mathematical probability of those remaining three numbers (which don't have to be the same ones) appearing becomes minimal. This isn't the case if you use the same system, as, theoretically, those 3 out of 37 would appear. So, it's about "playing with randomness" against "randomness" itself.
Entropy is precisely that, and we're now starting to be able to bring order to chaos in many aspects. The only thing standing in our way was our lack of understanding.
Any moderately acceptable system has a good chance of starting strong and winning for a few sessions; we all know this, and we've seen it ourselves.
The real trick lies in studying a system's resilience against dispersions and, crucially, knowing when not to push it past its "point of no return."
After extensive testing, if we find that a particular system comfortably handles, on average, 6 to 8 sessions, we should never push it beyond half plus one of that average. Doing so exponentially increases the probability in our favor.
From there, the strategy is to move on and exploit another one of the five-star (*****) systems in your arsenal, then another, and so on, completing a full cycle of the systems you have in play for that day.
In the next round, you can start playing them randomly, or better yet, capitalize on the trends that are already forming on the roulette table to maximize your returns.
If the day has been typical, after 4 or 5 rounds of play, you'll have accumulated enough profit to either stop playing or, if you've encountered any setbacks, deploy one of your recovery parachutes to salvage the session that wasn't going your way.
There are no more secrets to the Zechnas Method.
You all know good systems that can serve this purpose.
Note: The thread is locked because it is a work in progress / More Zechnas content to come.