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General => General discussion => Topic started by: BlueAngel on Aug 17, 2023, 08:35 PM

Poll
Question: What's more rare event and what is its possibility to happen?
Option 1: 16 repeaters without any of them to hit 3 times or more
Option 2: up to and including 30th spin 23 numbers and 7 repeats, up to and including 37th spin not any more repeats and 30 numbers shown in total
Title: What's more rare event?
Post by: BlueAngel on Aug 17, 2023, 08:35 PM

Both of those extreme events have happened to me, both on automatic wheels, the first at a land-based Greek casino and the second at "smartlive" casino.
Also both of those events didn't take long to occur, the first on the second day of the specific betting method and the second after a handful of sessions.

Please learn from my mistakes!
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: Smith on Sep 15, 2023, 04:28 PM
Quote16 repeaters without any of them to hit 3 times or more

I assume you mean this occurs in 37 spins?


Quoteup to and including 30th spin 23 numbers and 7 repeats, up to and including 37th spin not any more repeats and 30 numbers shown in total


So just to clarify, 7 unique numbers arrive from spin 31 to spin 37? That means there were only 7 repeats altogether over the 37 spins.
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: BlueAngel on Sep 15, 2023, 10:28 PM
Quote from: Smith on Sep 15, 2023, 04:28 PM
Quote16 repeaters without any of them to hit 3 times or more

I assume you mean this occurs in 37 spins?

In 32 spins, that's how far my BR has endured.

Quoteup to and including 30th spin 23 numbers and 7 repeats, up to and including 37th spin not any more repeats and 30 numbers shown in total


So just to clarify, 7 unique numbers arrive from spin 31 to spin 37? That means there were only 7 repeats altogether over the 37 spins.

Exactly!
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: winkel on Sep 16, 2023, 09:55 AM
You haven´t seen many statistics, have you!
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: BlueAngel on Sep 16, 2023, 01:40 PM
Quote from: winkel on Sep 16, 2023, 09:55 AMYou haven´t seen many statistics, have you!


Why are you saying so?

Have you seen 37 unique numbers in 37 consecutive spins?
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: winkel on Sep 16, 2023, 04:14 PM
Quote from: BlueAngel on Sep 16, 2023, 01:40 PM
Quote from: winkel on Sep 16, 2023, 09:55 AMYou haven´t seen many statistics, have you!


Why are you saying so?

Have you seen 37 unique numbers in 37 consecutive spins?

 up to and including 30th spin 23 numbers and 7 repeats, up to and including 37th spin not any more repeats and 30 numbers shown in total

This means at spin 30 14 unhit 16 once hit and 7 two hits
In my statistics this appears in one month 195 times (out of 5700 sequences)
at spin 37 this means 7 23 7 in my stats 2 times

If you only know that 7 spins without a repeat are quite normal. No matter at which point of a sequence.

Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: BlueAngel on Sep 16, 2023, 08:26 PM
Winkel: "If you only know that 7 spins without a repeat are quite normal. No matter at which point of a sequence."

So I begin betting on 23 numbers and add 1 more after each loss and that for 6 times (I have not bet the 37th because my bankroll run out, but 37th spin was just another unique number!)

1) 23
2) 24
3) 25
4) 26
5) 27
6) 28
7) 29

All these were lost. so I' asking a person of reason and knowledge such as yourself, if there were 7 repeats with fewer numbers then why there wasn't any repeat with the more numbers, from 23 up to 29, why?!
Do you find such event normal?!
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: winkel on Sep 16, 2023, 11:45 PM
"normal" seems to be the wrong description.

It is possible, as I proofed
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 2023, 10:14 AM
couple of things to help...
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 2023, 10:34 AM
oooh nearly forgot this..
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: Bally6354 on Sep 17, 2023, 12:09 PM
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 2023, 10:34 AMoooh nearly forgot this..

That's a useful tool 6th-sense, thanks.
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 2023, 12:53 PM
to be honest all this is shown on the ayk trackers...it shows the spin count the number is hit...each cycle has its own colour very very easy to be seen...and a lot easier to read
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: Smith on Sep 17, 2023, 04:55 PM
It's more likely that in 7 spins there will be no repeat as opposed to at least one. The probability is just under 55%.
Title: Re: What's more rare event?
Post by: Bally6354 on Sep 19, 2023, 01:59 PM
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 17, 2023, 12:53 PMto be honest all this is shown on the ayk trackers...it shows the spin count the number is hit...each cycle has its own colour very very easy to be seen...and a lot easier to read

Thanks, I am more interested in the gap feature in the tracker.
L.G. Holloway wrote a book (most famous for his rise and fall progression) and he said that he really began to understand roulette after looking at the gap frequencies and so that's something that I can have a good look at thanks to the tracker you provided. After around 2 cycles, we know they are normally only around 4/5 numbers left to come out and so there should be a gap number to work with on just about every spin after that. It will be interesting to look at the averages and just their general behaviour to see if there are any short term opportunities.

cheers