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Title: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: VLS on Sep 21, 2022, 06:01 AM
This is the original 34-unit parachute by Manrique:

Manrique's 34-unit parachute_RouletteIdeas-com.png

It is meant to be used as part of a larger strategy, Manriquean style.
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: winkel on Dec 15, 2022, 12:55 AM
What makes me always angry with these parachutes:
Which corner?
Which split?

If the target is on col 1 or 3: there are 2 possible corners
If the target is on col 2 : there are 4 possible corners

If the target is on col 1 or 3: there are 3 possible splits
If the target is on col 2 : there are 4 possible splits
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: BlueBuzzard on Dec 15, 2022, 09:44 AM
Quote from: winkel on Dec 15, 2022, 12:55 AMWhat makes me always angry with these parachutes:
Which corner?
Which split?

I think, since the Parachute is strictly a money-management system, the bet selection is up to you.
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: VLS on Dec 15, 2022, 01:31 PM
Hello dear @Winkel & @BlueBuzzard, thanks for participating. The observation is correct: bet selection is up to the player, with the most immediate way being to "follow the wheel", this means to simply look back in latest spin history and use the most recent bet location spun according to current numbers.

In case of a tie, keep on looking back until it unties, or simply pick any one covering your "pivot" number (since many players set a single straight-up number as their actual target, using the wider-coverage locations as a "possible backup").

For instance, say you identify your target as the furthest-back number, then you would launch the parachute targeting it and the wider-coverage hits act to buy you more spins until your actual target number hits.
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: BlueBuzzard on Jan 01, 2023, 11:09 AM
It's nice to know what the probability of success is for progressions like this. By "success" I mean the chance of a win anywhere in the progression. For this progression the probability is about 88%.

I wrote a little app which calculates the chance of a win for any progression spanning any of the 1u locations (ie EC, doz/col, DS...). You can use it for any sequence of bets covering any of those locations, where there may be multiple bets on the same location, or only one.

Here's a screenshot of the app showing inputs for the Manrique progression series of bets --

(https://i.postimg.cc/wTQqnYc5/prob.png)

It's simple to use: just enter the number of bets on a location into the relevant field. Use the Tab key to move to the next field. If there are no bets on a particular location, just leave the field blank and move to the next one. Then click Compute and the probability will be calculated and shown below the Compute button. Click the Clear Fields button to clear all the fields; the cursor will now be positioned in the EC field ready for the next computation.

It's quite useful for seeing the contribution each bet or series of bets makes to the overall probability. e.g. in the Manrique example you could remove the 3 in the STREET field and re-compute. The probability is now 84.70%, which means that the 3 bets on the streets contributed a probability of 3.43% (88.13 - 84.70).

To install the app, download the attached file and unzip it. Make sure the GUI.dll stays with the exe file or the program won't run.

Have fun!

p.s. @Vic, I wasn't sure where to post this. Maybe you could create an additional section for software contributions?
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: 6th-sense on Jan 01, 2023, 11:46 AM
pretty cool...thanks for the time and effort to do this
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: HardMan on Jan 02, 2023, 01:05 AM
Looks great functionally, although I have no Windows or pc to use it.

It would be great if addressed further complexity:

eg.
• add binomial STD1-5 derived ranks
  as STD3 is often encountered & to get to normalized probability takes a long-term play to get to
• adding another vertical column for number of positions
  horizontal expansion/reduction as coverage
• make it even more complex as a more advanced parachute, where on hit on eg. Quads, composed of 2-3-4 positions spread, then the coverage alternates to only one for a few spins ..... making a kind of complex tree (Markov chains)

& post such things online to be accessed anytime platform-agnostic (Android, etc.).
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: BlueBuzzard on Jan 02, 2023, 09:33 AM
Hardman, thanks for the suggestions. Do you not have any desktop pc at all? The program will also run on Mac & Linux using a windows emulator. I personally use Linux, and have an Android phone, but have no experience writing apps for Android. A web app would perhaps be the best option for maximum accessibility.

I know smartphones and tablets are currently fashionable, but I don't see how you can get any real work done on these because there is no keyboard and the screens are so small.
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: VLS on Jan 02, 2023, 11:30 AM
Quote from: BlueBuzzard on Jan 01, 2023, 11:09 AMp.s. @Vic, I wasn't sure where to post this. Maybe you could create an additional section for software contributions?

Hi @BlueBuzzard! We recently added a "(https://rouletteideas.com/downloads/catimgs/5.png) Member files" category to our downloads:

https://rouletteideas.com/downloads/

If unsure about where to upload some software/file, that's always a good choice 👍
Title: Re: Manrique's 34-unit parachute
Post by: HardMan on Jan 02, 2023, 03:39 PM
@BlueBuzzard Vic has posted a link to a service that converts all the code written to all platforms; yes, I agree, net-basted by default makes it platform agnostic & accessible to anyone anytime.

No, I am perpetually on the move, travel light & a great tablet does the trick, with the benefit of lower energy consumption & greater power bank→device conversion ratio.