## Sputnik's variant of Ching A Ling

Started by Patrik, Oct 08, 2022, 07:21 PM

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#### Patrik

Sputnik's variant of Ching A Ling

This is my take on the ching a ling was a strategy posted at roulette forum dot com that now has vanished.
But lucky you.
I save the strategy into PDF for both "Ching A Ling" and the other sister's topic "Red & Black"
If anyone is interested I can upload all the pages.

In short, the strategy uses six attempts to win at least two in a row, one level.
There are four levels with six attempts where the goal is to win +4 units.
If not the other three level works as recovery.

The author describes both casino visits where you win your win target several times in a row.
No brainer.
Also, describe casino visits where you end up in recovery mode for several hours.

The good news is that the author made 30K and bust and is still up over 20K a year of income.
Several members succeed to copy the strategy and make figures from 500 to 3000 Euro.
Both online and in real casinos.

The downside is that I have not cracked the way he succeeds in doing things.
Even though some members report success I know several punters who never succeed copy the strategy with the same success.

The Solution

I am developing a modification of what can become a twist or as close to the original as we can get with a working strategy.
I use four levels, but with five attempts for each level and where we only need to win twice.

I use both math and periodic cycles with some advanced way of calculating the median value.
To follow this topic I will start to share a PDF document that describes how I get the median value for the occurrences of singles versus series of three and higher.
Where a series of two become TIEs and can be ignored.
The name of the PDF is "Skips&Strikes" which can be used to calculate the periodic cycles for sequences, numbers or any other occurrences

Next, I will add the golden cut point for the median value and the cut point for the unlikelihood of the extreme.
I use the current date of the files from random org and upload the stats so you can see there is no curve fitting.

Cheers

#### Patrik

`  1. Z-Score 0,02 -  1 singles contra 1 serie of three 2. Z-Score 0,73 -  2 singles contra 1 serie of three 3. Z-Score 1,18 -  3 singles contra 1 serie of three 4. Z-Score 1,53 -  4 singles contra 1 serie of three 5. Z-Score 1,82 -  5 singles contra 1 serie of three 6. Z-Score 2,07 -  6 singles contra 1 serie of three 7. Z-Score 2,30 -  7 singles contra 1 serie of three 8. Z-Score 2,51 -  8 singles contra 1 serie of three 9. Z-Score 2.58    9 singles contra 1 serie of three 10. Z-Score 2,70 - 10 singles contra 1 serie of three11. Z-Score 2,89 - 11 singles contra 1 serie of three12. Z-Score 3,06 - 12 singles contra 1 serie of three13. Z-Score 3,22 - 13 singles contra 1 serie of three14. Z-Score 3,37 - 14 singles contra 1 serie of three15. Z-Score 3,52 - 15 singles contra 1 serie of three16. Z-Score 3,66 - 16 singles contra 1 serie of three17. Z-Score 3,80 - 17 singles contra 1 serie of three18. Z-Score 3,93 - 18 singles contra 1 serie of three19. Z-Score 4,06 - 19 singles contra 1 serie of three20. Z-Score 4,18 - 20 singles contra 1 serie of three21. Z-Score 4,30 - 21 singles contra 1 serie of three22. Z-Score 4,42 - 22 singles contra 1 serie of three23. Z-Score 4,53 - 23 singles contra 1 serie of three24. Z-Score 4,64 - 24 singles contra 1 serie of three25. Z-Score 4,75 - 25 singles contra 1 serie of three26. Z-Score 4,86 - 26 singles contra 1 serie of three27. Z-Score 4,96 - 27 singles contra 1 serie of three28. Z-Score 5,07 - 28 singles contra 1 serie of three29. Z-Score 5,17 - 29 singles contra 1 serie of three30. Z-Score 5,26 - 30 singles contra 1 serie of three31. Z-Score 5,36 - 31 singles contra 1 serie of three32. Z-Score 5,45 - 32 singles contra 1 serie of three33. Z-Score 5,55 - 33 singles contra 1 serie of three34. Z-Score 5,64 - 34 singles contra 1 serie of three35. Z-Score 5,73 - 35 singles contra 1 serie of three36. Z-Score 5,82 - 36 singles contra 1 serie of three37. Z-Score 5,90 - 37 singles contra 1 serie of three38. Z-Score 5,99 - 38 singles contra 1 serie of three39. Z-Score 6,07 - 39 singles contra 1 serie of three`Here we can see the jump from 2 singles versus 7 singles has a Z-Score of 2.30
And 7 singles versus 12 has a Z-Score of 3.06

These are the kind of numbers I will play around with and look at the median value and the extreme.
To find a trigger where a four-level approach can cut it.

The Secret Sause

"That 68.3% of the time the divergence would be one SD or less. Either side of the
MEAN.
"That 95% of the time the divergence would be 2 SD's or less. Either side of the
MEAN.
"That 99.7% of the time the divergence would be 3 SD's or less. Either side of the
MEAN.
"That only 0.3% of the time would the divergence exceed 3 SD's

#### Patrik

Progression - each level profit or break even ...

1 Level 1 2 3 4 5
2 Level 2 4 6 8 10
3 Level 3 6 9 12 15
4 Level 4 8 12 16 20

Cheers

#### Patrik

I have a solution that seems very solid.
Won several sessions online.

Keep you all updated

#### Median Joe

Quote from: Patrik on Oct 08, 2022, 07:42 PM

Progression - each level profit or break even ...

1 Level 1 2 3 4 5
2 Level 2 4 6 8 10
3 Level 3 6 9 12 15
4 Level 4 8 12 16 20

Cheers

Patrik, you haven't said how you use the progression. The original Ching-A-Ling gives more detail :

(Level 1 - \$10-\$16-\$22-\$28-\$34-\$40 = \$150 (Up \$6 on a loss, down \$4 on win.)
(Level 2 - \$15-\$24-\$33-\$42-\$51-\$60 = \$225 (Up \$9 on a loss, down \$6 on win.)
(Level 3 - \$30-\$48-\$66-\$84-\$102-\$120 = \$450 ( Up \$18 on a loss, down \$12 on win.)
(Level 4 - \$60-\$96-\$132-\$168-\$204-\$240 = \$900 ( Up \$36 on a loss, down \$24 on win.)

Any two consecutive wins decrease to whatever level value of that level. eg if Level 3
and you win two bets in a row instead of going down \$18 you decrease to \$30),
but never lower than the starting level amount.

Of course the actual values can be changed to suit your bank and risk tolerance provided you keep the same ratios.

#### Patrik

I think I crack it, will play online and see if I can duplicate the results.
Yes, I know the original, but I tweak and adapt to my selection process.
Both progressions work.

I currently using Carsh progression with six levels, five each.

Report back with an update.

#### Patrik

Here is a short sample testing the original using FTL and holding when the selection goes in the other direction.
Working just fine.

As Ching mentions, sometimes you strike several times and sometimes end up in recovery mode for the whole casino visit.
Not made up my mind yet, maybe I will run this on Exchanges.

A little over 50 sessions.
Aim to reach +4 and above, no strike I stop at +3/+3.5
When in recovery mode I change to accept the slight unit loss and then chase to recover fully.
For example -1 or -2 units.
Reach recover level 3 once.

+5.5
+3
+4.5
+4
+8.5
+4
+6.5
+3

-13

+7 level 2
+6 level 2

+4.5
+4
+3
+6
+3
+5.5
+7
+6
+3.5
+4

-11

+6 level 2
+9 level 2 +4

-13

+8 level 2
+7 level 2 +1

+3.5
+7.5
+3

-12.5

+11 level 2 -1.5

-13

+8 level 2
+4 level 2 -1

+3.5
+3
+4

-12

+6 level 2
+5 level 2 -1

+3
+3.5
+3
+5

-10 level 1
-26 level 2

+16 level 3
+16 level 3 -4

+4.5
+7.5
+5.5
+3

#### Patrik

Others mentioned they could not copy the results using FTL
I can understand the mechanism behind the Ching A Ling

Will do another 50 sessions with the original approach.
Should also mention this is made with no zero and RNG where I start a new fresh session after each attack.

In real life, I reckon a dealer change would be a new fresh start with a new attack session.
But I think I rather do this with Over/Under 2.5 goal markets on the Betfair Exchange.
I reckon +4 to +8 units each month with one single game each day or two games each day or several streams of games.

#### Rond1nell1

Quote from: Patrik on Oct 08, 2022, 07:21 PM

Sputnik's variant of Ching A Ling

This is my take on the ching a ling was a strategy posted at roulette forum dot com that now has vanished.
But lucky you.
I save the strategy into PDF for both "Ching A Ling" and the other sister's topic "Red & Black"
If anyone is interested I can upload all the pages.

In short, the strategy uses six attempts to win at least two in a row, one level.
There are four levels with six attempts where the goal is to win +4 units.
If not the other three level works as recovery.

The author describes both casino visits where you win your win target several times in a row.
No brainer.
Also, describe casino visits where you end up in recovery mode for several hours.

The good news is that the author made 30K and bust and is still up over 20K a year of income.
Several members succeed to copy the strategy and make figures from 500 to 3000 Euro.
Both online and in real casinos.

The downside is that I have not cracked the way he succeeds in doing things.
Even though some members report success I know several punters who never succeed copy the strategy with the same success.

The Solution

I am developing a modification of what can become a twist or as close to the original as we can get with a working strategy.
I use four levels, but with five attempts for each level and where we only need to win twice.

I use both math and periodic cycles with some advanced way of calculating the median value.
To follow this topic I will start to share a PDF document that describes how I get the median value for the occurrences of singles versus series of three and higher.
Where a series of two become TIEs and can be ignored.
The name of the PDF is "Skips&Strikes" which can be used to calculate the periodic cycles for sequences, numbers or any other occurrences

Next, I will add the golden cut point for the median value and the cut point for the unlikelihood of the extreme.
I use the current date of the files from random org and upload the stats so you can see there is no curve fitting.

Cheers

Hello,

I am interested in the archives of Ching a Ling and "Red & Black"

Cheers!

#### Patrik

I upload them tomorrow ...

Is a PDF browser that copies them into PDFs so they are clean but not like a publication as the shots are from forum board.
But is worth the read.

I will also post my variant of FTL using one sleeping event among three possibilities.
Wish are the results above.

Should also mention that in the Red/Black topic there is one example step by step betting where you can see exactly how he used the Ching a Ling method.
And I don't agree with everything even if he has such a big success.

When he gets a zero he raises the bet as it would be a regular loss.
Where I only repeat my bet as if it never had happened and continue betting for the same colour as the previous bet before zero hits.
I rather take a partial loss than lose one step of the progression at the current level.

Then another one is how to handle a series of two.
When you see Red you bet Red when you see Black you bet Black.
But if you win one bet and then lose the second bet, then do you raise the bet using the current progression at that level or do you treat it as a tie bet?
In this part I can not make up my mind, Ching Ling raise his bet in this situation and lose one attempt at the current level.
The benefit is series chopping and you get zig-zag and profit.
If a losing run you are one attempt less to catch a winning bet.

Cheers

#### Rond1nell1

Thank you for sharing! @Patrik

#### Patrik

Here is the setup - for my results above -

Two singles are one event
A series of two is one event
A Series of three or higher is one event

Take a look at the distribution and see what it begins with.
Let's say it's a series of two.

Then you watch until the series of two ends hits and you get two singles or a series of three or higher.
Now watch for how long and how many trails it takes for a series of two hittings again.

Sometimes you get a direct hit and other times fall asleep and all other events are hitting.

That is the description and works with all three events no matter what wish hits first.

Now to ching a ling where you only apply two singles as the losing sequence of two bets.
Where the average and the most common situation is that they fall asleep and then hit direct.
So when you get two losses you just wait for the two singles to stop hitting and try again.
Win +3,5 or +4 units or take a loss of six attempts and go into recovery mode.

Hope this helps and I find it performs better than the original FTL.

#### Rond1nell1

Quote from: Patrik on Dec 17, 2022, 02:55 PM

Here is the setup - for my results above -

Two singles are one event
A series of two is one event
A Series of three or higher is one event

Take a look at the distribution and see what it begins with.
Let's say it's a series of two.

Then you watch until the series of two ends hits and you get two singles or a series of three or higher.
Now watch for how long and how many trails it takes for a series of two hittings again.

Sometimes you get a direct hit and other times fall asleep and all other events are hitting.

That is the description and works with all three events no matter what wish hits first.

Now to ching a ling where you only apply two singles as the losing sequence of two bets.
Where the average and the most common situation is that they fall asleep and then hit direct.
So when you get two losses you just wait for the two singles to stop hitting and try again.
Win +3,5 or +4 units or take a loss of six attempts and go into recovery mode.

Hope this helps and I find it performs better than the original FTL.

Excellent idea, prevents losses in a death sequence like B P B P B P B P B P B P.
I really enjoyed it from the first time I read about the Ching a Ling method. It sure is one of the best methods ever posted on forums. It's not a HG but you can profit well playing it.

Unfortunately I'm in Brazil where casino is prohibited (But it's about to be released soon) so I have to play online, where we know it's not the same thing.

I'm doing well playing my Doubles method, where I expect 3 perfect doubles BB PP BB or PP BB PP (Or any other EC) and I bet on the continuation stopping at 1 hit, I go up to the 5 martingale. I risk 31 units, but I win a lot more than I lose. I make 4 to 10 units a day.
And currently studying the pattern of any 3 equal Ecs followed by 2 more opposites.
Ex:
BBB PP
PPP BB
OOO EE
EEE OO

If you start any of them at any time you will win with a very good frequency.
But I'm looking at triggers, and comparing these ideas with Ching a Ling to maybe find adaptations that are interesting.

Cheers!

#### 6th-sense

I did find this on my pc